Podcast of Doom (transcript):
The New 52! Ha! (part 2)
continued from part 1.
JIM DOOM: I will go through this 52 preview book, say the books that are coming out, and we say if we think we’ll give them a try or not.
DOOM DeLUISE: Ok, I’ll play that game.
JIM DOOM: And I should mention, for anyone listening in the Omaha area, that Legend Comics is doing a deal where you get one free 52 #1 issue for every three that you buy.
DOOM DeLUISE: That’s a great deal.
JIM DOOM: So for example, you walk to the counter with Action #1, Batman #1, Detective #1, and Aquaman #1, you get one of those for free. And yeah, it’s a cool deal, but I was too dumb to understand it.
DOOM DeLUISE: Haha
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: The guy at the counter was like “Are you going to be buying multiple #1s?” and I was like “Of this book?” and then he tried to explain, like “For every three #1s you buy, you get one free.” And I was like “Well screw that, I don’t want four copies of this book.”
So then he picked up the list and had to explain it to me slowly so I would understand.
I’m kind of dense sometimes.
DOOM DeLUISE: Hahaha
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: So anyway. We both bought Justice League #1. How about Justice League International?
DOOM DeLUISE: Yes.
JIM DOOM: I see Batman’s in it. With a different costume. No Blue Beetle though.
DOOM DeLUISE: I loved that last Justice League story with those characters.
JIM DOOM: I’d buy it if Keith Giffen and JM Dematties were writing it, but not with Dan Jurgens. I feel like that’s one of those rosters that needs the right writers, or else it just seems like a bunch of D-listers.
DOOM DeLUISE: Oh, for some reason, I thought Keith Giffen was writing it. Ok, no.
JIM DOOM: Aquaman.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yeah, I’ll buy that. That’s Geoff Johns, right?
JIM DOOM: Yeah, and Ivan Reis is doing art!
DOOM DeLUISE: Oh cool, I love his art.
JIM DOOM: I think I’ll give that one a shot.
Wonder Woman. Written by Brian Azzarello.
DOOM DeLUISE: Nope. Don’t care about that character. Never have. What’s he done?
JIM DOOM: 100 Bullets. I don’t care about her either, but I could see him making it cool. I think I’ll give it at least one issue. I could see him really bringing out the warrior aspect of it, which might be cool.
DOOM DeLUISE: Ok. Let me know if it doesn’t suck.
JIM DOOM: The Flash. Written and drawn by Francis Manapul.
DOOM DeLUISE: I’ll give it one issue, since I like Flash and I don’t know who that writer/artist is, but if the first issue doesn’t hook me, I’m done with Flash for a long time.
JIM DOOM: I bet you’d recognize Manapul’s work. I think he’s been doing the Flash recently. He was also doing Legion of Super Heroes for a while too. He reminds me of Greg Capullo back when Capullo did X-Force in the early 90s, before he became a Todd MacFarlane knockoff.
Kind of an Image-artist style, but much cleaner. No ridiculous excessive cross-hatching.
DOOM DeLUISE: Well that’s good. He better bring his A game.
JIM DOOM: But anyway, I’m generally not excited by artists who start writing a book, because it makes me think Tony Daniel. I don’t think I’ll try this one unless I hear good things, and then maybe I’ll hop on late.
DOOM DeLUISE: Man, Tony Daniel sucks.
I hate him.
Well, I hate his work. I don’t know him.
JIM DOOM: Fury of Firestorm.
DOOM DeLUISE: No way.
JIM DOOM: Hahaha I just saw that it’s written by Ethan Van Sciver! And it seems to directly flow out of the events of Blackest Night.
DOOM DeLUISE: Welcome to the New 52, where artists have become writers, and writers have been fired.
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: No kidding.
“Tony. Ethan. Your art is extremely stiff and lifeless. How would you feel about writing?”
Captain Atom.
DOOM DeLUISE: No to Captain Atom. Not interested.
JIM DOOM: This Captain Atom book looks like a total from-scratch reboot. I still don’t care enough to buy it though.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yeah, that makes me want to buy it even less than I did before, which was not at all.
JIM DOOM: Oh see I was actually intrigued by the reboot. Since they’re, you know, rebooting their universe and all.
But yeah, still don’t care.
Green Arrow.
DOOM DeLUISE: Nah.
JIM DOOM: For a while, Green Arrow was my favorite character in the DC Universe. But they made him really lame.
DOOM DeLUISE: It looks like he’s getting a full reboot, too.
JIM DOOM: Seriously, how do you make a goateed old man in a hood who shoots arrows lame?
[audience silence]
DOOM DeLUISE: Hahaha
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: Hawkman.
DOOM DeLUISE: Written by Tony Daniel? No thanks.
JIM DOOM: Tony Daniel. Ugh.
Mister Terrific.
By blah blah and nobody.
DOOM DeLUISE: He gets his own series? What the hell? No.
JIM DOOM: DC Universe Presents, starring Deadman, “straight from the pages of Brightest Day, which took place in a universe that just ended, just kidding!”
DOOM DeLUISE: Hahaha. That sounds stupid. No, I won’t buy that.
JIM DOOM: How many issues do you give Mister Terrific before it’s canceled?
DOOM DeLUISE: Three?
JIM DOOM: I hope it gets canceled after one. That’d be funny.
Action Comics. Written by Grant Morrison.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yes.
I’m excited for that.
JIM DOOM: This is one occasion where I really hope Grant Morrison ignores what’s happening in the DC Universe around him.
DOOM DeLUISE: Haha, he’s really good at that!
JIM DOOM: Superman #1, written and drawn by George Perez.
DOOM DeLUISE: I thought he was just doing covers. I don’t know. I’ll buy the first issue and see how it goes.
JIM DOOM: ah, I read it more closely. He’s doing covers and breakdowns. Jesus Merino is doing the finishing. I’m not sure yet if I’ll try that. I have a feeling that the disparity between it and Action will just annoy me.
Supergirl.
DOOM DeLUISE: No.
JIM DOOM: Superboy.
DOOM DeLUISE: No.
JIM DOOM: Speaking of dragging continuity into the cleaner new world.
DOOM DeLUISE: I hope they’re not making a series of the “Fifth Kryptonian” or whatever that [beep] was.
JIM DOOM: I’m glad that I don’t remember what that is.
Ok, Batman. Written by Scott Snyder. Art by Greg Capullo, who hopefully still doesn’t want to be Todd MacFarlane.
DOOM DeLUISE: I’ll buy that. I told myself I’d only start buying Batman again once Tony Daniel was off it. So, thank god he is.
JIM DOOM: Speaking of, Detective #1, written and illustrated by Tony Daniel.
DOOM DeLUISE: hahaha
No. Come on!
JIM DOOM: Did you see this promo art? It’s this awful drawing of the Joker’s face surrounded by doll heads. But then it teases that a killer called “The Gotham Ripper” is on the loose. It makes me wonder if Tony Daniel has relaunched The Joker as The Gotham Ripper.
It doesn’t make me wonder if it will suck.
DOOM DeLUISE: That’s a guarantee.
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: I wonder why the Joker’s eyes are rolling back in his head. And why his seemingly disembodied head is resting among some disproportionately small baby heads.
I bet Tony Daniel thought that would be disturbing or something.
“Good Lord, the horror! They’ve left this man in charge of relaunching Batman!”
Batwoman.
DOOM DeLUISE: I don’t think so, Tim.
JIM DOOM: It’s another instance of the artist doing the writing. If it’s a slow week, I might try it. I like JH Williams III’s art enough that I may give it a shot.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yeah. Let me know how it goes.
JIM DOOM: Batman: The Dark Knight. Art and writing by David Finch.
DOOM DeLUISE: That just started! I didn’t like the first story-arc. No.
JIM DOOM: I honestly thought they might use the relaunch to pare down the line a little bit, so that we’d no longer have four Batbooks. Nope.
Batman Inc.
Hold up.
I got ahead of myself.
FIVE Batbooks.
No wait. Five BATMAN books.
There are like 17 Batbooks.
So anyway, Batman and Robin. Co-starring Damian. Written by Peter Tomasi.
DOOM DeLUISE: Nah.
JIM DOOM: It’s going to be really interesting to look at sales figures from August to September.
Batwing.
DOOM DeLUISE: I don’t know what that is, and I refuse to respond to it.
[audience laughter]
JIM DOOM: It’s a book about Batman’s plane and the wacky adventures it gets into.
DOOM DeLUISE: Like Herbie, only in comics.
JIM DOOM: Written by Tony Daniel.
Actually all of that is a lie. It’s about Batwing, the Batman of Africa! I might give it a shot for no other reason than it’s written by Judd Winick.
DOOM DeLUISE: Oh, yeah, he can be pretty good.
I won’t, though.
JIM DOOM: Batgirl.
Barbara Gordon isn’t paralyzed anymore! Probably because it’s a new universe, freed of the shackles of continuity.
DOOM DeLUISE: But she is the newest member of Batman Inc!
JIM DOOM: and she has her own book!
DOOM DeLUISE: That move actually kind of pisses me off. I’m not going to buy it.
JIM DOOM: Nightwing. Now with red costume.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yeah, I’ll buy it. Even though it pisses me off, I’ll buy it.
JIM DOOM: Catwoman.
DOOM DeLUISE: Nope.
I’m gonna get like one free issue from Legend.
JIM DOOM: Have you seen the cover art to this, by the way? I think they should require comic artists to have seen an actual woman in real life, because this cover includes another instance of that familiar comic book biological abnormality known as the fused breasts. Cleavage at the top, and then they get so big that they become one.
DOOM DeLUISE: haha
JIM DOOM: That said, it’s written by Judd Winick. So I might give it a shot. At least I know I won’t be tempted to [beeeeeep] with that gross fused breast thing going on.
[audience makes sounds of disgust]
DOOM DeLUISE: Gross.
JIM DOOM: Birds of Prey.
DOOM DeLUISE: No.
JIM DOOM: Red Hood and the Outlaws.
DOOM DeLUISE: Oh, look, Red Arrow is back to being Arsenal.
JIM DOOM: Wearing a baseball cap.
DOOM DeLUISE: I remember thinking that it’d be cool if the team was Red Hood, Red Arrow, Red Tornado, and Rocket Red.
JIM DOOM: A guy with guns, a guy with arrows, and an intergalactic space alien lady.
DOOM DeLUISE: Stupid. No, I’m not buying that.
JIM DOOM: It reminds me of Angel Summoner and the BMX Bandit.
Green Lantern.
DOOM DeLUISE: Yes
JIM DOOM: I think the fact that it stars Sinestro and builds on Rebirth makes me hate it too much.
Green Lantern Corps.
DOOM DeLUISE: Nah
JIM DOOM: So if Sinestro is Earth’s Green Lantern now, why is Hal Jordan Green Lantern in JLA?
DOOM DeLUISE: Well, Hal Jordan was Earth’s GL five years ago. JLA #1 takes place five years ago. What a weird place to jump in.
JIM DOOM: oh yeah. No kidding.
DOOM DeLUISE: I don’t think there’s anything else that even remotely interests me.
JIM DOOM: We can’t give up now.
Green Lantern: New Guardians.
DOOM DeLUISE: No.
One Green Lantern book is enough for me.
JIM DOOM: Red Lanterns. They must’ve been really stretching to get to 52. Peter Milligan’s not bad though. I’ve really liked some of his stuff. Maybe I’ll try this.
DOOM DeLUISE: Jesus, no. Try it and let me know if I should buy it. Cuz I’m not gonna.
JIM DOOM: Justice League Dark.
What on Earth?
Hopefully this will satisfy all the people who were like “I want two books a month starring Deadman!”
I’m going to just say “Hell no” for you and move on.
Swamp Thing.
[tape ends]